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TOPIC: gandi's drunkard son pray tell why you turned into a muslim
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.books/t/9bb1fe5a4b197d00?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 3 2009 10:01 pm
From: "http://meami.org"
Misstep wrote:
Mira Glib: Mira Glib, I write to you through Jesus Christ and the Holy
Spirit upon you and with you as you read
:Mira Glib:
What you write of me is I am full of hatred. I say to you this. Write
in your books. "If you say to me I am full of hatred then whether I am
full of hatred or whether I am not full of hatred your word is full of
judgment." The claim precedes factual ramification rain corning
spinster lied
Mira Glib wrote:
> > i will tell you one thing, and you can run your own checks and find out.
> > i have talked about this with so many punjabi folks who were affected by
> > partition. so far, not one has faulted mahatma for partition massacres.
> > actually, i did find many who were very grateful that congress party had
> > made accomodations for tens of thousands of them in dillie.
> >
> > when a leader produces results for masses consistently, the people will
> > trust that leader for miracle. but things can go wrong along the way. it has
> > happened in the story of freedom struggles of many countries, including usa.
> > those nations don't come down on their leaders the way indians are doing.
> >
> > when india neared freedom, the expectations and the forward dynamics changed
> > dramatically. it did not help that mahatma was a very very old man then. he
> > used to say people in his own congress did not listen to him. people
> > salivated at the prospects of power. there was no alternative to his
> > leadership at the time although he wasn't the man for the moment.
> > he did his best to stop partition. it did not work. so, there is a lesson to
> > be learned there: muslims are a separate nation no matter what anybody says.
> > now, if the people out there have learned that lesson, i would say partition
> > wasn't a bad thing.
> >
> > it is not clear why murkah arindam would have problem with hari converting
> > to islam in the first place because he grows twice in size when his shayaris
> > are applauded by mommedans: his reason enough for a negative attitutde
> > toward objective hindus is they won't buy his snake oil, and whom he must
> > therefore call back stabbers.
> > ----------------------------------------------------
> >
> > <<<If any credit is due, at least in Punjab, it should go to the RSS,
> > who at tremendous risk rescued thousands of Punjabi Hindus and
> > Sikhs from the perils, and brought them safely into India. It is
> > ironical they are branded by the rulers of India as "communal" !>>>
> >
> > i agree. and i don't believe mahatma ever criticised self defence during
> > partition. rss literature shows it considers mahatma as a great hero; why do
> > you suppose rss, which is not shy about being polically incorrect, thinks ...
> >
> > read more »
>
> Obviously you did not interview many Punjabis.
>
> The most glaring example contradicting your view is that of
> Madan Lal Pahwa. He had met Gandhi some time in December '47
> or January '48, and lamented about his family in Punjab being
> butchered before his eyes. Gandhi gave him some cockamamie
> answers, something like universal love and Ahinsa, which I
> tend to believe greatly upset him. I say that because he planted
> a bomb designed for Gandhi about 10 days before Gandhi was
> actually assassinated. The bomb did explode, but Gandhi escaped
> unhurt.
>
> Gandhi did discourage the refugees that were pouring into India
> during 1946-47 from coming to India. Instead, his advice for
> them was to "fight by Ahinsak means, armed only with moral
> power, even if it could (certainly) mean death", or worse, especially
> for the women. It is noteworthy that he offered the similar advice
> to the British and the Jews of Europe.
>
> Gandhi never studied history. He foolishly mistook common
> courtesy as "goodwill." Add to that his utter stubbornness and
> refusal to accept his own mistakes (there were many, some
> very crucial). Scan Gandhi's sayings. Not in one place has
> he criticized Muslims, even though they displayed their
> predatory behavior, such as by Moplahs in Kerala, 1921-22.
> However, he routinely blackmailed Hindus on absurd and
> dangerous points, through his "purification" fasts.
>
> I think Gandhi was trying to project himself to the Indian
> people as another Jesus Christ, one who takes the sins of
> others on his own shoulders. Perhaps he did succeed there,
> because, like Christ, he too was assassinated.
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 4 2009 5:28 am
From: "Arindam Banerjee"
Hmm, the monkey harmony has spent some effort to spew some of his crap, and
maybe it is worthwhile to do some pathology.
"Mirza Ghalib" <mghalib01@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:33c22ee2-b14c-4091-af0b-578b306defc6@y10g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> i will tell you one thing, and you can run your own checks and find out.
> i have talked about this with so many punjabi folks who were affected by
> partition. so far, not one has faulted mahatma for partition massacres.
> actually, i did find many who were very grateful that congress party had
> made accomodations for tens of thousands of them in dillie.
This is probably the biggest lie ever said in Usenet, and confirms harmony's
status as a monkey, if ever that was in doubt. Even Khushwant Singh the
great Congressi bootlicker in his moments of candour said how much he hated
India's freedom from the British. He also wrote a novel "Train to
Pakistan" - full of rapes and murders and so a great hit - about the evils
current at the time. I worked with a Sardar chap who was a refugee from
Pakistan, when I was in Delhi. He hated Gandi with all his heart, and
indeed he was the first one to inform me how gandi slept naked with his
naked neices, cursing gandi all the time in the most choice Punjabi.
> when a leader produces results for masses consistently, the people will
> trust that leader for miracle. but things can go wrong along the way. it
> has
> happened in the story of freedom struggles of many countries, including
> usa.
> those nations don't come down on their leaders the way indians are doing.
Point is, absolutely nothing right happened for India under gandi's
disastrous leadership. He was a great fraud with all the charm of ugliness.
India's independence would never have happened with WW2 so if any
personality is responsible it was Hitler. Prior to WW2 Gandi and his mates
were looked upon as perfectly acceptable and manageable nuisances, who were
useful as they blunted the terrorist activity with their passivity. The
Indian elite had no use for them, and the masses were enjoying the benefits
of British rule at long last (after the horrors of the previous century,
under the capitalist East India Company and the subsequent period of
mismanagement under Crown Rule). Had there been a popular vote for Congress
rule or British rule, it is very doubtful whether the Congressis would have
won. For many elderly Indians still remember and praise British rule, the
last bit which is what they remember. Gandi and the Congress were given
independence because the British wanted to leave India, as India was no
longer profitable what with the internal tensions. In short, force of
circs. gave India freedom, and gandi is no more responsible for it than the
current PM is responsible for globalisation (or whatever).
>
> when india neared freedom, the expectations and the forward dynamics
> changed
> dramatically. it did not help that mahatma was a very very old man then.
> he
> used to say people in his own congress did not listen to him. people
> salivated at the prospects of power. there was no alternative to his
> leadership at the time although he wasn't the man for the moment.
> he did his best to stop partition. it did not work. so, there is a lesson
> to
> be learned there: muslims are a separate nation no matter what anybody
> says.
> now, if the people out there have learned that lesson, i would say
> partition
> wasn't a bad thing.
>
> it is not clear why murkah arindam would have problem with hari converting
> to islam in the first place because he grows twice in size when his
> shayaris
> are applauded by mommedans: his reason enough for a negative attitutde
> toward objective hindus is they won't buy his snake oil, and whom he must
> therefore call back stabbers.
> ----------------------------------------------------
>
> <<<If any credit is due, at least in Punjab, it should go to the RSS,
> who at tremendous risk rescued thousands of Punjabi Hindus and
> Sikhs from the perils, and brought them safely into India. It is
> ironical they are branded by the rulers of India as "communal" !>>>
>
> i agree. and i don't believe mahatma ever criticised self defence during
> partition. rss literature shows it considers mahatma as a great hero; why
> do
> you suppose rss, which is not shy about being polically incorrect, thinks
> ...
>
> read more »
Obviously you did not interview many Punjabis.
The most glaring example contradicting your view is that of
Madan Lal Pahwa. He had met Gandhi some time in December '47
or January '48, and lamented about his family in Punjab being
butchered before his eyes. Gandhi gave him some cockamamie
answers, something like universal love and Ahinsa, which I
tend to believe greatly upset him. I say that because he planted
a bomb designed for Gandhi about 10 days before Gandhi was
actually assassinated. The bomb did explode, but Gandhi escaped
unhurt.
Gandhi did discourage the refugees that were pouring into India
during 1946-47 from coming to India. Instead, his advice for
them was to "fight by Ahinsak means, armed only with moral
power, even if it could (certainly) mean death", or worse, especially
for the women. It is noteworthy that he offered the similar advice
to the British and the Jews of Europe.
Gandhi never studied history. He foolishly mistook common
courtesy as "goodwill." Add to that his utter stubbornness and
refusal to accept his own mistakes (there were many, some
very crucial). Scan Gandhi's sayings. Not in one place has
he criticized Muslims, even though they displayed their
predatory behavior, such as by Moplahs in Kerala, 1921-22.
However, he routinely blackmailed Hindus on absurd and
dangerous points, through his "purification" fasts.
I think Gandhi was trying to project himself to the Indian
people as another Jesus Christ, one who takes the sins of
others on his own shoulders. Perhaps he did succeed there,
because, like Christ, he too was assassinated.
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TOPIC: Polanski Busted!
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 4 2009 5:08 am
From: sara97@webtv.net (Sara T)
No matter what his childhood, it does not excuse right from wrong. He is
supposedly an intelligent man. He knew what he was doing, and that it
was very wrong. He deserves to pay for his crime(crimes?)
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TOPIC: Bookstores Around the World (rec.arts.books) (FAQ) (IMPORTANT UPDATE)
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== 1 of 9 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 4 2009 5:37 am
From: "Cornholio"
"Bill Snyder" <bsnyder@airmail.net> wrote in message
news:r67qb596eihai6trg5rijao24nk6i93r93@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 25 Sep 2009 15:11:55 -0400, Lawrence Watt-Evans
> <lwe@sff.net> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 25 Sep 2009 10:48:22 -0700 (PDT), Stratum101
>><j.collier@cross-comp.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sep 25, 9:43 am, Evelyn Leeper <elee...@optonline.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> UShttp://www.leepers.us/evelyn/bookshops/na-sw.htm Southwestern
>>>
>>>I'd move Texas from "southwestern" into "southern".
>>>It is culturally Southern and only a little over
>>>100 miles from Louisiana.
>>
>>Not all of Texas is culturally Southern. Not all of Texas is
>>ANYTHING. It's an absurdly huge place, and the line between Southern
>>and Southwestern runs through it, not along its border.
>>
>>And what's 100 miles from Louisiana? Texas adjoins Louisiana -- but
>>San Antonio, for example, is hundreds of miles from that border. Did
>>you mean Dallas?
>>
>>To me, Dallas doesn't seem culturally Southern.
>
> As a long-time resident, I'd say putting "Dallas" and "culture" in
> the same sentence is highly questionable, unless maybe you're
> discussing microbiology.
Texas has the highest per capita amount of assholes of any state in the nation,
nearing 100%.
I grow weary of blowhard Texans and their braggadocio.
The state is overrun by spics and drug dealers.
The USA would have been better off if Texas had lost the war with Mexico!
== 2 of 9 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 4 2009 8:24 am
From: Howard Brazee
On Sun, 4 Oct 2009 08:37:45 -0400, "Cornholio"
<Cornholio@tp4.mybunghole> wrote:
>Texas has the highest per capita amount of assholes of any state in the nation,
>nearing 100%.
>I grow weary of blowhard Texans and their braggadocio.
>The state is overrun by spics and drug dealers.
>The USA would have been better off if Texas had lost the war with Mexico!
I wonder how that would have changed the economies of both the U.S.
and of Mexico. What would North America be like today.
_A Specter is Haunting Texas_ seemed to be about Lyndon Johnson's
Texas when I read it when it came out.
--
"In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."
- James Madison
== 3 of 9 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 4 2009 12:09 pm
From: "Stanley Moore"
"Cornholio" <Cornholio@tp4.mybunghole> wrote in message
news:haa4tt$lbn$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>
> "Bill Snyder" <bsnyder@airmail.net> wrote in message
> news:r67qb596eihai6trg5rijao24nk6i93r93@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 25 Sep 2009 15:11:55 -0400, Lawrence Watt-Evans
>> <lwe@sff.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 25 Sep 2009 10:48:22 -0700 (PDT), Stratum101
>>><j.collier@cross-comp.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sep 25, 9:43 am, Evelyn Leeper <elee...@optonline.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> UShttp://www.leepers.us/evelyn/bookshops/na-sw.htm Southwestern
>>>>
>>>>I'd move Texas from "southwestern" into "southern".
>>>>It is culturally Southern and only a little over
>>>>100 miles from Louisiana.
>>>
>>>Not all of Texas is culturally Southern. Not all of Texas is
>>>ANYTHING. It's an absurdly huge place, and the line between Southern
>>>and Southwestern runs through it, not along its border.
>>>
>>>And what's 100 miles from Louisiana? Texas adjoins Louisiana -- but
>>>San Antonio, for example, is hundreds of miles from that border. Did
>>>you mean Dallas?
>>>
>>>To me, Dallas doesn't seem culturally Southern.
>>
>> As a long-time resident, I'd say putting "Dallas" and "culture" in
>> the same sentence is highly questionable, unless maybe you're
>> discussing microbiology.
>
> Texas has the highest per capita amount of assholes of any state in the
> nation, nearing 100%.
> I grow weary of blowhard Texans and their braggadocio.
> The state is overrun by spics and drug dealers.
> The USA would have been better off if Texas had lost the war with Mexico!
>
Now that was a truly hateful screed <G>. Texas is like nowhere else. Yes, it
has problems; what place doesn't? Yes, there are a few blowhards; where can
you not find them? Sure there are some drug dealers as well as very nice
hardworking Hispanic families. But all in all there is nowhere I'd rather
live. You have immense diversity of landscape, cultural orientation, and
Texas is well renowned for its friendly people. Take care
--
Stanley L. Moore
"The belief in a supernatural
source of evil is not necessary;
men alone are quite capable
of every wickedness."
Joseph Conrad
== 4 of 9 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 4 2009 1:25 pm
From: Louann Miller
"Stanley Moore" <smoore20@comcast.net> wrote in
news:14CdnQ69c4jAaVXXnZ2dnUVZ_sednZ2d@giganews.com:
> Now that was a truly hateful screed <G>.
He doesn't want reasoned discourse, he wants a flame war. Don't give him
either, it's not worth the time.
== 5 of 9 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 4 2009 4:15 pm
From: Stratum101
On Oct 4, 2:09 pm, "Stanley Moore" <smoor...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Texas is like nowhere else.
Sort of like North Korea and Patagonia, except the
weather in Texas isn't as good.
== 6 of 9 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 4 2009 5:39 pm
From: Patok
Stanley Moore wrote:
>
> Texas is like nowhere else.
Every place is like nowhere else, depending on how closely you
look. Conversely, every place is like everywhere else, when you look at
it from a sufficient distance. :)
> But all in all there is nowhere I'd rather
> live. You have immense diversity of landscape, cultural orientation, and
> Texas is well renowned for its friendly people.
That's fine and dandy, but how do you cope with the weather? IMHO,
that's its biggest problem, not the people.
--
You'd be crazy to e-mail me with the crazy. But leave the div alone.
== 7 of 9 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 4 2009 7:26 pm
From: Evelyn Leeper
Patok wrote:
> Stanley Moore wrote:
>>
>> Texas is like nowhere else.
>
> Every place is like nowhere else, depending on how closely you look.
> Conversely, every place is like everywhere else, when you look at it
> from a sufficient distance. :)
>
>
>> But all in all there is nowhere I'd rather live. You have immense
>> diversity of landscape, cultural orientation, and Texas is well
>> renowned for its friendly people.
>
> That's fine and dandy, but how do you cope with the weather? IMHO,
> that's its biggest problem, not the people.
>
You go into an air-conditioned bookstore, of course.
Oh, I'm sorry, I actually drifted back to the topic. :-)
--
Evelyn C. Leeper
I don't need a friend who changes when I change and who nods
when I nod; my shadow does that much better. -Plutarch
== 8 of 9 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 4 2009 7:35 pm
From: "Francis A. Miniter"
Patok wrote:
> Stanley Moore wrote:
>>
>> Texas is like nowhere else.
>
> Every place is like nowhere else, depending on how closely you look.
> Conversely, every place is like everywhere else, when you look at it
> from a sufficient distance. :)
>
>
>> But all in all there is nowhere I'd rather live. You have immense
>> diversity of landscape, cultural orientation, and Texas is well
>> renowned for its friendly people.
>
> That's fine and dandy, but how do you cope with the weather? IMHO,
> that's its biggest problem, not the people.
>
Yes. I would come out of my hotel in Houston in the morning
and the force of the heat and humidity immediately fashioned
on my brain an image of the doorman picking up a hot, wet
blanket and slamming it into my face while saying, "Good
morning, sir."
--
Francis A. Miniter
Oscuramente
libros, laminas, llaves
siguen mi suerte.
Jorge Luis Borges, La Cifra Haiku, 6
== 9 of 9 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 4 2009 5:30 pm
From: dbd@gatekeeper.vic.com (David DeLaney)
Patok <crazy.div.patok@gmail.com> wrote:
>Stanley Moore wrote:
>> Texas is like nowhere else.
>
> Every place is like nowhere else, depending on how closely you
>look. Conversely, every place is like everywhere else, when you look at
>it from a sufficient distance. :)
And if you look at the metric instead of the places, you get Nourse's
_The Universe Between_...
Dave "manifold interests" DeLaney
--
\/David DeLaney posting from dbd@vic.com "It's not the pot that grows the flower
It's not the clock that slows the hour The definition's plain for anyone to see
Love is all it takes to make a family" - R&P. VISUALIZE HAPPYNET VRbeable<BLINK>
http://www.vic.com/~dbd/ - net.legends FAQ & Magic / I WUV you in all CAPS! --K.
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TOPIC: Whacking the AhMADinejad Whack Job
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 4 2009 6:24 am
From: Marko Amnell
The Daily Telegraph reports that it has been
revealed that Mahmud Ahmadinejad has
Jewish roots. He was born Jewish and his
family converted to Islam and changed
their name after he was born.
--------------------------------------------------------------
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad revealed to have Jewish past
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's vitriolic attacks on the Jewish world
hide an astonishing secret, evidence uncovered by
The Daily Telegraph shows.
By Damien McElroy and Ahmad Vahdat
The Daily Telegraph
Published: 7:30AM BST 03 Oct 2009
A photograph of the Iranian president holding up his identity card
during elections in March 2008 clearly shows his family
has Jewish roots.
A close-up of the document reveals he was previously known as
Sabourjian – a Jewish name meaning cloth weaver.
The short note scrawled on the card suggests his family changed its
name to Ahmadinejad when they converted to embrace
Islam after his birth.
The Sabourjians traditionally hail from Aradan, Mr Ahmadinejad's
birthplace, and the name derives from "weaver of the
Sabour", the name for the Jewish Tallit shawl in Persia. The name is
even on the list of reserved names for Iranian Jews
compiled by Iran's Ministry of the Interior.
Experts last night suggested Mr Ahmadinejad's track record for hate-
filled attacks on Jews could be an overcompensation to
hide his past.
Ali Nourizadeh, of the Centre for Arab and Iranian Studies, said:
"This aspect of Mr Ahmadinejad's background explains a
lot about him.
"Every family that converts into a different religion takes a new
identity by condemning their old faith.
"By making anti-Israeli statements he is trying to shed any suspicions
about his Jewish connections. He feels vulnerable in
a radical Shia society."
A London-based expert on Iranian Jewry said that "jian" ending to the
name specifically showed the family had been
practising Jews.
"He has changed his name for religious reasons, or at least his
parents had," said the Iranian-born Jew living in
London. "Sabourjian is well known Jewish name in Iran."
A spokesman for the Israeli embassy in London said it would not be
drawn on Mr Ahmadinejad's background. "It's not
something we'd talk about," said Ron Gidor, a spokesman.
The Iranian leader has not denied his name was changed when his family
moved to Tehran in the 1950s. But he has never
revealed what it was change from or directly addressed the reason for
the switch.
Relatives have previously said a mixture of religious reasons and
economic pressures forced his blacksmith father Ahmad
to change when Mr Ahmadinejad was aged four.
The Iranian president grew up to be a qualified engineer with a
doctorate in traffic management. He served in the
Revolutionary Guards militia before going on to make his name in
hardline politics in the capital.
During this year's presidential debate on television he was goaded to
admit that his name had changed but he ignored the
jibe.
However Mehdi Khazali, an internet blogger, who called for an
investigation of Mr Ahmadinejad's roots was arrested this
summer.
Mr Ahmadinejad has regularly levelled bitter criticism at Israel,
questioned its right to exist and denied the Holocaust. British
diplomats walked out of a UN meeting last month after the Iranian
president denounced Israel's 'genocide, barbarism and racism.'
Benjamin Netanyahu made an impassioned denunciation of the Iranian
leader at the same UN summit. "Yesterday, the man who calls the
Holocaust a lie spoke from this podium," he said. "A mere six decades
after the Holocaust, you give legitimacy to a man who denies the
murder of six million Jews while promising to wipe out the State of
Israel, the State of the Jews. What a disgrace. What a mockery of the
charter of the United Nations."
Mr Ahmadinejad has been consistently outspoken about the Nazi attempt
to wipe out the Jewish race. "They have created a myth today that they
call the massacre of Jews and they consider it a principle above God,
religions and the prophets," he declared at a conference on the
holocaust staged in Tehran in 2006.
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TOPIC: Need help finding a title of a book
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 4 2009 6:30 pm
From: Pinky or Kaisin
I read this book about ten or so years ago. Not sure of when it was
written or by whom. What I can remember about it is that it was set in
the UNited states, with the Navy and was about a secreat class of a
submarine I think was called the Shark. The opening was when the
captain was on board a sub coming in to port and had a crash with a
yatch, I think which happend in New York. I know in the book it had a
secreat mission invlolving the sub which resided in a tanker that was
converted to service the sub.
I hope some one can help,
John
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 4 2009 8:59 pm
From: Stratum101
On Oct 4, 8:30 pm, Pinky or Kaisin <kaisinmir...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The opening was when the
> captain was on board a sub coming in to port and had a crash with a
> yatch, I think which happend in New York.
I had an accident with a yatch once. I never
took my eyes off it afterward.
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TOPIC: Carradine -- Born to Eternity in Fishnets and a Wig?
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 4 2009 10:31 pm
From: Just Me
Not. It's a lot of bunk. One look at the infamous "Death
Photo" . . .
. . . and the alleged "fish-net stockings" are revealed for nothing
but hatch-marks used to retouch the photo for publication. So it goes
also by the look of it, for the so-called wig which is probably just a
black blot to hide his identity. Not that you'd expect such a
sensibility for propriety from Bangkok of all places, but that's how
it looks from here.
Carradine was an actor of such extraordinary competence that it was
like losing Woody Guthrie all over again--only Carradine was not
Woody, not at all the character you may recall with much affection
from his performance in "Born to Win". This you learn by checking out
some of the many interviews with the actor to be found on YouTube.
Woody was Woody, and David Carradine was--who knows what? A damn fine
actor that he could cover such a weirdness of personality that was
him, really him, off the sound stage.
Take away the photographic retouching from that Bankok tabloid photo
and that is David Carradine in character as David Carradine, just
doing his usual risky auto-erotic thing-- which is what? Some kind of
ritual self-flagellation he regularly indulged to atone for yet
another wild and sexy night of doing his Kung Fu moves in scarlet
women's underwear --- if indeed that is a neat little stack of red
ladies lingerie folded so nicely on the bed, and not his Karate black
belt.
Damn tough thing though, to see someone so admirably talented and
accomplished in his field appearing for his curtain call, to last in
the memory of all, like that. How much nicer if only we could
remember him all shot to shit and bleeding a crimson river as "Cole
Younger" in *The Long Riders*; David Carradine the very epitome of a
wry coolness that was all his own, not even to be surpassed by the
likes of Dean and Brando.
--
JM http://whosenose.blogspot.com
http://bobbisoxsnatchers.blogspot.com
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