Friday, October 23, 2009

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* Texas Death Penalty was Bookstores Around etc - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.books/t/92153a6882249799?hl=en
* Cheaper Kindle - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.books/t/83369cb7977feb61?hl=en
* Mandelbrot on efficient markets - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.books/t/496fa77e4c853268?hl=en

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TOPIC: Texas Death Penalty was Bookstores Around etc
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.books/t/92153a6882249799?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Oct 22 2009 9:21 pm
From: David Johnston


On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 21:40:42 -0500, "Stanley Moore"
<smoore20@comcast.net> wrote:

>
>"Francis A. Miniter" <faminiter@comcast.net> wrote in message
>news:hbodmm$i6e$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>> Stanley Moore wrote:
>>> "Beowulf Bolt" <abd.al-hazred@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>>> news:4ADF6EE5.39AE@shaw.ca...
>>>> Stanley Moore wrote:
>>>>> There was some recent case in Texas where an illegal alien (or maybe
>>>>> legal resident) was not informed that he could apply to his consulate
>>>>> for help. I do not recall the details but a treaty issue entered into
>>>>> it. I think it was a death penalty case. Take care
>>>> If you consider a decade ago 'recent' you probably are referring to
>>>> Joseph Stanley Faulder. Unfortunately for him, the Canadian appeals for
>>>> his sentence to be commuted to life imprisonment because of the alien's
>>>> right issue went to Dubya, and were received with Dubya's usual response
>>>> (ie "no").
>>>>
>>>> See
>>>> http://www.nytimes.com/1998/12/08/us/aliens-rights-are-issue-in-texas-death-row-case.html
>>>> for a brief discussion of his case.
>>>>
>>>> Biff
>>>>
>>>
>>> At my age a decade see,s recent history <G>. However a decade ago "Dubya"
>>> as you call him was governor of Texas not President. Clinton was
>>> President and could have commuted the sentence had he wished to. In any
>>> case based on the facts of the case the death penalty was fully
>>> justified. But I was referring to something more recent that involved as
>>> I recall a Mexican national rather than a Canadian. Take care
>>
>>
>> Hi Stanley,
>>
>> I think Biff did mean Bush and in his capacity as Governor. In a state
>> death penalty case, the power of commuting the sentence lies with the
>> Governor. The President of the United States has no power there. Notice
>> that in the Medellin case, Bush was trying to intervene on the side of the
>> condemned man, an act for which I give him credit (though his reasons had
>> far more to do with relations with Mexico than recognition of justice),
>> and he failed to accomplish anything at the Supreme Court.
>>
>> --
>> Francis A. Miniter
>
>I thought the power of Presidential pardon was unlimited and the President
>COULD override the governor though it would probably not be wise to do so.
>Take care

Myth. At least as the American Constitution has been interpreted, he
can only pardon people from Federal beefs.

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TOPIC: Cheaper Kindle
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.books/t/83369cb7977feb61?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Oct 22 2009 9:49 pm
From: "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)"


Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote:
> Jesper Lauridsen <rorschak@sorrystofanet.dk> wrote in
> news:hbqred$1ic$1@news.eternal-september.org:
>
>> On 2009-10-21, Mike Ash <mike@mikeash.com> wrote:
>>> In article <Xns9CAB5D126F602taustingmail@69.16.186.7>,
>>> Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Then why didn't you respond to it?
>>> Despite how you may treat it, Usenet does not have to follow a
>>> pattern of attack and counter-attack. Sometimes people can just
>>> use a post as an inspiration for a marginally-related followup.
>> But that assumes Usenet is used to exchange ideas and
>> information. That's not the Usenet Austin is on.
>>
> That's not the usenet anyone else is on, either.
>

I believe in that Usenet! I do!


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TOPIC: Mandelbrot on efficient markets
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.books/t/496fa77e4c853268?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Oct 22 2009 10:34 pm
From: spudnik


two things: a)
just attended a promulgation of "free markets"
re _Turning Oil into Salt_ -- look it up,
in which (I think) the head of the institute,
where it was given, suggested a "floor price"
for "alternative energy," which was immediately
confuzed with one for oil ... so, I asked,
with a resounding non-response, if that latter was not
the same as applying a tariff to imported oil; b)
just read that mister Merriwether,
who started the ill-fated LTCM hedgie,
based upon the Nobel Prize-winning (sic) formula
of Scholes et al, is starting a new one, his third
(it (FT) also said that the average hedgie was
only about two to three times leveraged,
which I guess was "bollocks," what ever that is.

now, as for E=ccm, it is just an extension
of Leibniz'z well-known formula from *vis-viva*
(sp.?), and not so earth-shattering ...
no matter what Leo "doc strangelove" szilard did with it!
(things, only the Larouchiacs know .-)

> > True, which is why *WE* from IIT Kharagpur say that e=mcc is the most
> > absolute bollocks, and all peoples in all nations that *believe*

--Cap'n'trade is an arbitrageur's delight;
an actual tax on imported oil is a tariff e.g..
http://wlym.com/~animations/fermat/index.html
".... beyond that level (today, it is over 300 ppm),
the effectiveness of carbon dioxide as a greenhouse gas decreases
exponentially (Figure 1). This exponential
decline in the effectiveness of carbon dioxide as a
greenhouse gas is not contested by the believers in
global warming; they simply ignore it.
There is an experiment anyone can do to understand
this principle: Take a sheet of paper, and place it
over a window with sunlight coming through. You ...."
http://larouchepub.com/lar/Articles_2009/Articles_2009/Cap_and_Trade.pdf
http://larouchepub.com/lar/Articles_2009/Where_Punt_sp09.pdf
www.wlym.com


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